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Interview: Gehad El-Haddad: “This is a police state back in full brute force”

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Gehad El-Haddad, spokesperson of the Muslim Brotherhood, speaks to the Daily News Egypt about the current events, the political deadlock in Egypt, and explains the situation from the Muslim Brotherhood’s perspective

Gehad El Haddad, spokesperson of the Muslim Brotherhood (Photo by Aaron T. Rose/DNE)

Gehad El Haddad, spokesperson of the Muslim Brotherhood (Photo by Aaron T. Rose/DNE)

Could you first clarify reports claiming that the Muslim Brotherhood is willing to negotiate with the European Union acting as a mediator?

I think Reuters over dramatised the facts here. The facts were that the EU requested a meeting with the Brotherhood. They wanted to understand what our position is and what would what would bring us to the discussion table with the army.

Our reply was both informal and formal; we told [Catherine] Ashton that three things are required:

First, a full reversal of the coup, a full reinstatement of the constitutional legitimacy of the state, which includes reinstating the president reactivating the constitution and reinstalling the Shura Council.

Second, condemnation of the military coup. Recognising it as a military coup and condemning it and countries that recognised it.

Third, condemning the human rights abuses, violations and crimes orchestrated by the coup regime.

These were the requests. If you want to put them in context of what they mean in terms of talks and negotiations they are much like pre-conditions before anything else starts. After that, everything else is on the national reconciliation table. This includes constitutional amendments, parliamentary elections, presidential election; the whole roadmap that the president said two days before his ouster and the same that roadmap that is being expressed now by the current Minister of Defence, [Abdul Fatah] Al-Sisi. They are the same milestones in a way, the only difference is that one is actually built on grounds of constitutional legitimacy; the other is built on grounds of tanks.

 

You say there are pre-conditions for negotiations, but during Mohamed Morsi’s time in office he didn’t accept pre-conditions coming to the negotiating table for national reconciliation.

So we are now comparing an elected president with a military tank?

 

No, but it might be difficult to bring people to the table with such pre-conditions.

Certainly, we are not interested in bringing the military to any table. In fact, when I said national dialogue and reconciliation that does not include the military. The military is not a political player and they have to get this idea into their heads. The military’s role is in the barracks and they have to be pushed back into the barracks and not be allowed anytime soon to have any role in the political life in Egypt. We have already suffered twice by allowing the military to take a political role in Egypt. The last time was in 1954 when we, in absolute naivety, trusted the military to implement democratic elections. They never do; they have to be pushed back into the barracks. Politicians and the Egyptian people have to take back the country into their own hands, and they did after the 25 January revolution. We stood in presidential elections, in parliamentary elections, in two constitutional amendments and in one constitutional referendum, and yet after all of that the military trashed it. Are there any guarantees they wont do it again?

 

We have discussed what isn’t negotiable, what is negotiable?

Everything else. Once we establish constitutional continuity, everything is negotiable. By pure logic, the Muslim Brotherhood right now is at its lowest rate of approval in the streets in terms of electoral base. Why not have parliamentary elections? There would be official legitimate representatives of the people; they could then ratify constitutional amendments and push them to referendum, request that the president step down, call for early presidential elections or even request a referendum on the president’s continuity. They would be legitimate representatives of the people, not the military choosing one protest because it is cuter than the other and deciding to side with it, because the military doesn’t have the power to do that; at least, it shouldn’t.

 

A report from the Guardian last week cited Muslim Brotherhood member Mohamed Ali Bishr, claiming that he had met with the military for negotiations. Has anyone from the Brotherhood or the National Coalition for Legitimacy had any contact of any sort with the military or the interim government?

With the military? Yes.

Mohamed Ali Bishr did, but it was not negotiations. We never close the door to communication because it allows the other side to understand where the other one stands, and that is exactly what it is. They asked us where we stand and we said, ‘you think you are inviting us to any type of dialogue by sending us live bullets, killing our protesters, closing down our offices, confiscating the assets, closing the channels, closing down the press papers and imprisoning our leaders arbitrarily?’ Is that any type of inviting message to anybody? Of course not.

We were communicating our refusal, as well as our recognition that this is military coup; we will never ratify it and the fact is that every decision they are making is based on lack of legitimacy. It is refutable in any part of the future and I imagine that this anti-coup movement will take about a year; after that year, once its won, and it will win; that will be the will of the people. There is no other way around it. In the 21st century, a military coup will never take hold of a state. Once it wins, every decision taken by the military coup government, (the president they appointed, the prime minister they appointed, any International Monetary Fund deal or loan, or decisions of appointment or change of law) all of that will be erased in a swift second because none of it has any grounds of legitimacy.

 

Daily News Egypt talks to Gehad El Haddad, spokesperson of the Muslim Brotherhood (Photo by Aaron T. Rose/DNE)

Daily News Egypt talks to Gehad El Haddad, spokesperson of the Muslim Brotherhood (Photo by Aaron T. Rose/DNE)

There is a lot of confusion surrounding who has been imprisoned and for how long. Which of the leading Muslim Brotherhood members are in jail?

The numbers are now racking up; there are two groups. There is a presidential team; there are ten people detained with the president. For the record, Pakinam Sharkawy was never one of them; she was allowed to leave early on, right after the address of the coup itself by Al-Sisi. Afterwards they were on lockdown, incommunicado, no communication or interaction whatsoever.

There are also the arbitrarily arrested members of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Freedom and Justice Party and members of other groups as well, not just us. Basically, any group that would have stood in front of the military coup. They started by arresting Mahdi Akef, the previous guide of the Brotherhood, 88 years old, Khairat El-Shater the deputy guide, Dr [Rashad] Bayoumi the other deputy, Dr (Saad) Al-Katatni, previous speaker of the parliament and president of the FJP, Abdel Moneim Maqsoud, an FJP lawyer who went to investigate why Al-Katatni was in prison, and they said ‘well we’ll have you too’. It is police state back in full brute force.

 

You said there has been no communication at all. One of those detained with the presidential team is your father Essam El-Haddad.  Have you had any communication with him?

No interaction, no communication. One of the team members called one of his family members and said, “We’re ok”. That was the call. The only thing the military has said is that they are being held in an undisclosed location.

 

What have you heard about Mohamed Morsi, any information about his location or condition?

Nothing at all. Nothing official, nothing unofficial. He is a president that is kidnapped with his team, literally. As far as we understand, his team is with him, we have no proof otherwise but we would expect them to be together.

 

The Brotherhood refused to meet with Deputy Secretary William Burns, but met with Catherine Ashton from the EU, why was this?

We did not refuse; there was a request for a meeting. We said let’s have a meeting; it just never took place because of logistical incapability of organising it. We never close the door to holding dialogue with anyone. At the end of the day, we want to make our positions clear so that people understand what we are standing for, what we are doing and what we intend to do. This is what the Muslim Brotherhood does and what the National Coalition for Legitimacy and anti-coup [movement] does. We did this with Ashton and we are ready to do it with anyone. At the end of the day, the rest of the world has to understand it is a military coup, and don’t look stupid trying not to use the word ‘military coup’. The only thing you are going to do is increase the mistrust in Western hypocrisy: trying to preach democracy for decades and in the first test of time you have failed.

 

Gehad El Haddad, spokesperson of the Muslim Brotherhood (Photo by Aaron T. Rose/DNE)

Gehad El Haddad, spokesperson of the Muslim Brotherhood (Photo by Aaron T. Rose/DNE)

Do you feel in any way that the United States has sided with the military and the interim government?

It’s one of two things: either the US is complicit in conspiring to put together this military coup, or the US actually welcomed it. There is no other way, there is no third option here and it is exactly because of that leadership position that the US has put itself in, is why the world is as messed up as it is today. The main country that was preaching democracy around the world is the most hypocritical in terms of actually siding with interest, or even perceived interest, rather than principle.

It’s no wonder that the US is the most hated country on both sides of the isle now, because they are trying to walk a line that doesn’t exist. You have to choose a side, do you stand with the principle of democracy or do you stand with your perceived interest. It is out of your own naivety that you think your interests are with the military, when in fact for the first time ever we had the opportunity to build a nascent democracy in Egypt that would have never succeeded at the push of a button. It was a very long process and required a lot of participation and support both inside Egypt and outside it but you allowed neighbouring countries to destabilise the Morsi administration.

 

Which neighbouring countries are you referring to?

The Gulf countries, the ones that recognise the coup, the countries that sabotaged Egypt’s aid more than once. The countries that now, once the coup happened, rushed to recognise it; suddenly Egypt became their best friend and they are dumping loads of money, $12 bn, into it. Democracy would change this region if it were allowed to take place because people aspire to have the freedom to choose their leaders, but if you close the road to peaceful transfer of power through democratic means, you have cut the ability of the wise men on the scene to devalue the argument of violence. Now the argument we are receiving is  ‘we told you so. Democracy is for everyone except Islamic parties’.

 

Many have said during his time in office Morsi displayed undemocratic principles: for example, the November 2012 constitutional declaration, the appointment of Talaat Abdallah as prosecutor general and the way the constitution was pushed through to referendum.

Even the way you are asking the question sheds the light on exactly where the problem lies. You said the constitution was pushed through quickly. That is not true; it took six months, now the interim government is announcing a constitution in four months. It took six months, not because Morsi chose that but exactly because the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces amendment to the constitution in 2011 locked the roadmap to allow six months to write the constitution. Most of the choices we were stuck with were the result of the interim process, which SCAF was running. Even the destruction of parliament was through that same avenue.

Lets set two rules here. First of which, no one has the right, not even the state department, to say that Morsi’s rule was undemocratic. It is not yours to say so. The only people that can say so are the Egyptian people. Second, the Egyptian people do not speak through talk shows or Twitter accounts or unelected leaders that have nothing to say in representation of other people. They speak through two avenues: either directly through the ballot box or through their representative bodies. There are two representative bodies in Egypt: the president and the Shura council. For everyone else, it’s his opinion and it doesn’t matter except when it is put into the context of the democratic process. Within that context, what we said to everyone is ‘lets have parliamentary elections’. At least then you would have MPs that have the legitimacy to speak on behalf of the people, and they would have a say on whether this president were democratic, and if he were doing his best. They would have their say on whether we should have an early presidential election or a referendum on the president’s continuation, but it has to go through the democratic process. Not ending up with a failed presidential candidate that shied away from every election, went whining to the army, brushing up to its muscle and then was forcibly installed on top of the state because the army thought he was cute enough for it.

 

Who are you referring to?

Dr [Mohamed] ElBaradei

 

Daily News Egypt recently interviewed the military spokesperson. He accused the Brotherhood of using weapons and described the Brotherhood’s tactics as “propaganda warfare”. Do you have a response to that?

I think they are basically describing their own tactics, because the evidence is clear. The army still has the naivety to think that we are still in 1954 and 1956 because they orchestrated this same thing before. But this is the digital age; this is when everyone with an iPhone or a camera can shoot what is going on. A couple of hours after their press conference hundreds of videos surfaced on YouTube showing the massacre from every angle and it literally backed our story to the point, and the army was embarrassed enough not to disclose it again. They have to concede the fact that they used live ammunition with no warning, killing protesters at dawn during their prayer. I mean what stupidity got over them, what brutality got over them to kill their own people with their own ammunition, state issued and paid for by the Egyptian tax-payer?

86 died in one morning by orders of the military. We cannot allow this to continue, and regardless of whatever they say it is a police state back in full brute force. They massacre the people themselves, they fabricate the evidence and they cut video footage from different scenes and try to present it as evidence. The police force concocts the stories needed, the complicit judiciary accepts the evidence and the media sells it to the public and you have a case.

 

The same thing has also happened from your side as well; there was an image of the two Syrian children people claimed were killed outside the Republican Guards headquarters.

One of the websites that is related to the Muslim Brotherhood is an unofficial website. At the end of the day, these are different journalists writing the article and using pictures of their own; of course they are going to make mistakes. We have the counts that happen in the three hospitals, and the Rabaa medical centre, and we have eyewitness reports and footage of what was happening there. It was a peaceful protest that had men, women and children. The deaths are now recorded and everyone has copies of them.

It is 51 from the original count and the rest are still being ratified. Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International published their reports based on eyewitness reports. Unfortunately most of the people that died out of the 86 died not from direct bullets to the head but rather being left for hours to bleed out on the ground.

They could not make it to hospital because the military kept on shooting. It was a bloodbath that lasted for hours; even the ones that escaped the scene were chased, arrested and sometimes even shot when they were wounded on the ground. We have seen footage that seems to have happened a couple hours afterwards where police actually shot the wounded. It was a bloodbath, a massacre by all means. And don’t tell me that a military coup regime can launch any type of independent investigation.

The coordinators of the protest, once they arrived at the Republican Guards location the night before, contacted the main office of the Republican Guards club and set up a communication channel so that if anything went wrong there was a communication channel. ‘What’s going on? What’s happening here? Do you want us to move a couple of blocks?’ There was coordination, it was a peaceful protest at the end of the day, and there was no legitimacy or need of any type to opening live fire on a peaceful protest. Who gave that order?

 

How important is it for you to remain in Rabaa and what do you think of the reaction of local residents, some of which have said they are getting tired of the sit-in?

I can understand their grievances with the people at the sit-in. There are hundreds of thousands of people gathered in a place close to where they are living and it affects their lifestyle. There are some who understand the legitimacy of the cause and are willing to be patient with us and there are those who are not. At the moment, we do not have the luxury of choice here. This is Tahrir 2.0, literally. The only reason it is not in Tahrir is because it is filled with Molotov cocktails and thugs at the moment and that is why we decided not to have any confrontations because at the end of the day the essence of what we are doing is keeping to the peaceful non-violent nature of that protest. Our cause is just and no one has any other claim but that. We are standing up to a military coup that took over our country by brute force.

We are coordinating with many of the Rabaa citizens. There is a committee of coordination that has been set up to deal with building orders directly. They are dealing with issues like garbage not being picked up efficiently, or some people sleeping in the internal gardens of the building themselves. We are setting up coordination committees to make sure that we don’t put pressure on the residents of the area to the best of our abilities.

For us, this is nothing more than a central location like Tahrir was during the 25 January revolution but the marches that go around Cairo and all governorates around Egypt that are increasing in number and in size since we started this. We are 21 days into this sit-in, it is the longest sit-in ever and these are the ones that give recognition from the people and they connect with it and more start streaming in.

Tonight (Thursday) and tomorrow (Friday) we are going to have even more numbers. Tomorrow is a million man march that will converge on a central location, all of that will be disclosed Friday morning. So the movement around the sit-in is much more important because this is where the engagement with the citizens happen.

 

There have been reports that people in Rabaa have been prevented from leaving and others that people are being paid to join the sit-in. I would like to hear your reaction.

You can walk around and ask anyone you want. It is an open scene here, we have received diplomats from all over the world as well as Egyptians from both sides of the aisle; even people from the anti-Morsi camp have come over. The people here are here by choice; they are here to stand up for the long hours they spent in lines at the ballot box to make a choice, to choose a leader for their country and they should not allow the military to take over that will, and they decided to step up for it.

 

The Brotherhood has failed to condemn acts of violence against Christians around the country.

Let’s be frank here. There always is [condemnation]. We never ratify violence under any circumstances. The only time ever that we ratified violence was under the British occupation, trying to push an occupier out of our country. Other than that we don’t accept violence as means of change.

 

On the official Arabic website of the Brotherhood, Ikhwan Online, this week there was an article claiming that the Sheikh of Al-Azhar colluded with the Coptic Church to oust Morsi. Do you not think this is an inflammatory statement?

It is not an official Arabic website. It is an opinion website of Muslim Brotherhood members and writers. It represents ideas of people, and if anyone thinks that it lacks facts they should talk to the one who wrote it and discuss it with them.

The Muslim Brotherhood expresses its official positions in two ways: either through its official spokesmen (there are three of those,) or through its official statements.

 

What is your response to emergence of the Ahrar group that claims to be members of the Brotherhood calling for a change of leadership, including for the supreme guide to be replaced.

It is funny they being led by the National Democratic Party. That is my answer.

 

Are there any concerns within the Brotherhood that people might get to a point where they will think that it is time to negotiate without Morsi being reinstated?

The Muslim Brotherhood is an organisation by choice; in fact you pay 10% of your income to the Brotherhood to support the movement itself. It is by choice; if you don’t want it, leave.

Anyone can do that but from the brotherhood position we are saying no. We are entitled to have our own position. That is all we are saying; we have our own position. Whoever sides with our position is with us in this camp.

 

 If a member of the Muslim Brotherhood decided to negotiate without Morsi being reinstated, would he still be a member of the Brotherhood?

Well, they can go and speak to the military themselves, but the brotherhood takes its decisions democratically through its own decision-making mechanisms, not by the whim of a member.

About the author

Joel Gulhane

News Reporter

Joel Gulhane is a journalist with an interest in Egyptian and regional politics. Follow him on Twitter @jgulhane

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  • Mahmoud

    What is happening in Egypt now is to comply with
    the Egyptian army to the will of the people represented by the 33 million
    people demonstrated against the regime of the Muslim Brotherhood, the terrorist
    fascist and for the statements of Mr. Jihad Haddad is a liar and everything he
    says is true and he and his parents have issues of corruption and treason and
    wanted for justice.Will not be able to change the will of the Egyptian people
    must not it time to stop mourning for Jihad funny lying on The Sites and
    European and American channels has become something very pathetic

    • Khairun

      Read again, The only people that can say so are the Egyptian people. Second, the
      Egyptian people do not speak through talk shows or Twitter accounts or
      unelected leaders that have nothing to say in representation of other
      people. They speak through two avenues: either directly through the
      ballot box or through their representative bodies. That is kind of democracy that western always tell to anyone.

    • Khairun

      Democrazy in Egypt..Almost every state and private media outlet has swung behind the new
      order, with the government clamping down on those who dare to express
      alternative narratives. A cameraman for al-Jazeera, the only
      Arabic-language channel to cover in any detail the sizeable pro-Morsi
      protests, was arrested as he filmed clashes between Morsi supporters and
      police earlier this week.

      Prosecutors detained al-Jazeera’s
      Mohamed Badr for 15 days after his arrest at the clashes in central
      Cairo on Monday night. Badr’s colleague, producer Mohamed Gomaa, later
      asked officers what Badr had been detained for. “They said it’s enough
      to accuse him of working with al-Jazeera, because they are traitors, and
      people working for al-Jazeera want to set the country on fire,” Gomaa
      claimed.

      • Sam Boulis

        Sorry buddy, I tried to understand your point but you lost me!

    • truthhurts666

      There were no 33 millions, stop fooling people.

      • Sam Boulis

        Give some logic, gibberish makes no sense!

    • Ahmed graziani

      33 millions, maybe 120 million no ? stop dreaming about number, Tahrir square don’t fit more than 650000 , it was the only place we have seen those police and gangsters agressing women reporters…
      do you think it represend the egyptian majority…
      go back to bed.

  • Sam Boulis

    Why is the Brotherhood trying to get the EU to broker a deal with army or the new government? you guys have lost big time and 33 million Egyptians don’t want you, I just hope disappear into the night….!

    • DAMNtoMilitaryrule

      Sam do you understand what you have written? you just project haterate till you lost your brain.

      • Sam Boulis

        Hey friend, I couldn’t figure out what(haterate) is, try again.

      • Sam Boulis

        Hey Buddy, Just what the hell is(haterate) means? it is not part of the English language, oh did you mean(hatred)?

    • Folina Rai

      There are no 33 million Egyptians. These are just number which any body can throw in the air.

      • tamer

        You are right, these numbers are very arbitrary. But the same, if not more people, came out against morsi as against Mubarak. Why was it for the army to push out Mubarak and not Morsi?

        • Ahmed graziani

          because morsi was democraticaly elected, 1 year as president not more than 30 years ! because you can’t make a honest sentence for freedom of that people from military presence since 1952.

    • Ahmed graziani

      33 millions, maybe 120 million no ? stop dreaming about number, Tahrir square don’t fit more than 650000 , it was the only place we have seen those police and gangsters agressing women reporters…
      do you think it represend the egyptian majority…
      go back to bed.

      I can just say there are 80million people in rabaa , lol

      • tamer

        Do you realise that by saying that only 650000 people fit in Tahrir then you are saying that the same few number of people went against Mubarak? Are you sure you want to say that my little minded sheep?

        • Ahmed graziani

          oh “sheep” i like you donkey repeting what they are saying, and i like report numbers of mathematicians evaluating the tahrir square capacity.
          cut your long ears before coming back talking with me.

          • tamer

            Are you confirming that only 650000 people protested against Mubarak? Yes or no, simple answer

          • Ahmed graziani

            in Tahrir square ? yes my donkey

          • tamer

            So you want Mubarak back?

          • Ahmed graziani

            I want democracy back,,the only democraticaly elected president until the egyptian nation vote for another one, not some numbers anounced by sissi and corrupted media allow army take control of the country,
            I hate muslim brotherhood way to control this great nation, but the vote box put them at this position in parlement, and presidency, so we had to push them out by voting not by calling for a coup and let the army install again the corruption and moubarak buisness again.

          • tamer

            I want democracy too. But we never had it. We had a parliament and president without a constitution. That is not democracy. That is a system where the strongest is king. The proof is that Morsi made himself dictator in a very undemocratic way. You can’t build a system based on who wins today because tomorrow it will change. First you need a real working constitution. Then you have elections.
            Last time the army took over and chose the government. Why do you accept it last time and not this time?
            And the same story about Mubarak business men is getting a bit ridiculous now. And I would prefer Mubarak business men than Hamas terrorists.

          • Ahmed graziani

            right! you have a voted contitution an eleceted president and an elected parlement !! why calling the army!??

            You don’t want this president there is two way to do if you want democracy, have a majority un parlement bring a gouvernement and out this president or waiting the next election!!

            No way for army intervention !

            moubarak arrived by power and ousted by power,

            Morsi arrived by democracy and has to be Out by democracy, by Vote of that people not by numbers of army.

            Not by catch all Muslimbrotherhood leaders and putting them in prison, not by closing their channels, not by killing civilian people, it’s rediculous.

            It remind nazi politic methods. where is morsi ? why is he kidnapped ? is it democracy ? is it the begining of the new modern egypt , to jail politician ?? an elected president ?

            It make crazy what is happening , i’m sad for this people who die everyday by army bullets.

          • tamer

            Morsi was elected. But he broke the law. We don’t have to wait for an election to bring him to justice. We asked for him to resign, a very democratic request, he refused. The referendum on the constitution was not democratic because morsi was a dictator at the time. Morsi came with elections then tried to control by power, so we removed him by power. You don’t want people to die by army bullets, stay away from army locations. Stay in Rabaa.
            Army gave the power to Morsi, they will give it to next elected president. And the next president who breaks the law and commits treason like Morsi will be removed and arrested like Morsi

          • tamer

            Also remember that the Nazis got power by elections then created a dictatorship.

          • Sam Boulis

            Ahmed, listen you knuckle head, Morsi was a criminal who broke out of prison with help from Hamas, he had no right to run for a president, he screwed the economy so bad that the next president will have his work cut out for him so…..don’t be a sour loser.

          • Ahmed graziani

            haaahaaa nice to read some clown like you, you should go kiss Sissi shoes right now, army control will inhibate all liberty and return to police state of moubarak, you will see you cows celebrating thiese poor egyptians killed by army guns because of protesting peacefully , you’re ridiculous ,
            like this slut…

          • Sam Boulis

            Ahmed is heart broken, he lost Morsi which was a fascist president and far worse than Mubarak ever was.

          • Sam Boulis

            Bla bla bla, Ahmed you don’t make sense, take a hike ya moron.

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  • tamer

    Interesting how he evaded the question of the November 22 constitutional declaration in which Morsi made himself dictator in a way that Mubarak never did! And the referendum on his constitution was held under the terms and conditions of this dictatorship, same as the elections under Mubarak.
    These people are either incredibly hypocritical or just plain ignorant. How can you talk about legitimacy and democratic process and make a move like they did last November? Morsi and the MB were a dictatorial regime just like Mubarak and NDP. They collapsed the same way and will be held accountable the same way.
    Lastly, didn’t the army and “Mubarak” judges effect and supervise the free and fair elections and hand over power to Morsi? It seems they have a better track record than Morsi in democracy

    • Folina Rai

      Dictator, how ?

      • tamer

        Morsi made a unilateral constitutional amendment in November 2012 giving himself legislative powers as well as executive powers and making all his decisions irreversible.
        He could take any decision he wants and no one can stop him. That is the definition of a dictator

        • Ahmed graziani

          people have chosen this constitution; no body have to contest for this.
          same thing for a democratic elected president.
          stupid tamarrod making a civil war in egypt.

          reminding me algeria 1991…

          • tamer

            My friend you have the same limited and ignorant understanding of democracy as Morsi and the MB. Morsi was elected as president but it doesn’t give him the right to do anything he wants. He made himself dictator in November 2012 which is a treason crime. That is punishable by life in prison. He is no longer the legitimate president. The constitutional referendum also was not free and fair because at the time of the vote, Morsi had the right to cancel it if he wanted to because he was dictator like Mubarak. Also if the vote result was “no”, then we would have been left with Morsi as dictator.
            So learn about real democracy then come join the discussion.

          • Ahmed graziani

            No way losting my time with ignorants, media manipulated, propaganded people. poor tamer..

          • tamer

            Says the sheep.

  • Folina Rai

    People are noticing clear difference between democracy and dictatorship
    -In last 365 days of Morsi no opponent leaders were Jailed or Arrested,
    but military dictators have arrested hundreds of opponents in just 3
    week.
    - In last 365 days of Morsi no body died in the protests
    against Morsi, but in military dictators killed hundreds of people in
    just 3 week.
    - In last 365 days of Morsi no media channels were closed, Military dictators have closed 7 TV channels in just 7 days.
    -In last 365 days of Morsi no office of opposition parties were burned
    but military dictators have burned all the office MB in just few days.

    These military dictators are the getting support from other dictators
    in the region who do not allow free speech, they imprison people for
    year for just criticizing them.

    Its time for decision for middle east , if they want dictators and thieves or legitimate leaders.

    • tamer

      It seems you either don’t live here or have not been following the events of the past year.
      Several TV stations had been closed. Many journalists who opposed the president were jailed or beaten. Two were killed in front of the presidential palace.
      Dozens of opposition protesters were killed in front of the presidential palace and in front of the HQ of the MB.
      Dozens of military and police officers were killed or kidnapped in Sinai by Jihadist terrorist groups and the president gave them immunity
      There were more court cases against opposition and activists for “insulting the president” in the last 12 months than in Mubarak 30 years.
      Political opposition offices were attacked several times. The Supreme Court was besieged by Morsi supporters. Media City was besieged by the same supporters and TV presenters attacked.
      Get your facts right plz.

      • truthhurts666

        All lies and propaganda, name one TV station which was closed.

        • tamer

          Hahaha all lies and propaganda? Hahaha you people are funny.
          Al Faraeen channel was closed.

      • Hamid Siddiqui

        You do not need to live there or even you do not have to be an Egyptian to see and analyse the facts. You said if youfollow the past events you will see opposition protesters been jailed or beaten, my question is I have followed the entire Egyptian Election news, and I want you to tell me from what you viewed a reason of these protests? Who funded and prompted these protesters ? Morsi is an elected president, who did not get any chance to show the performance of his government, before even his government get functional these riots erupted, he have every right to arrest the people who are trying to create hurdles in the path of Egytps progress. And I am with the Morsi Supporters, Egyptian Military has proved to be sold out traitors and nothing more, but they do not realize that have sold their selves against their own brothers and motherland. I feel bad and sorry, and am embarrassed, by the way I am not Egyptian, but I feel Embarrassed of how the people of a country known for ancient history and education, are behaving, they are destroying their own country without realizing the outside hand, it is the same hand who ousted Hosni Mubarak calling him a dictator, and now the same hand is after the most democratically elected president. Ask your self a question please before it is too late.

        • tamer

          Hold on! Are you saying Mubarak was not a dictator? Are you serious? You think an outside hand paid for the millions of people to go out and protest against Mubarak and then against Morsi??
          I’m sorry but I protested against both and no one paid me! If you know who they are please give me a contact so I can get my money :)
          You’re not Egyptian, I am!! and extremely proud to be. Egyptians now have a voice that will be heard. It doesn’t matter if the voice is pro-Morsi/Anti-Morsi/Pro-Army, we all have a voice now and are fighting for what we believe in. We may disagree, and there are many on both sides who are abusing our passions and causing the deaths of too many people. But I have no doubt that we will pass this phase and stand all together (MB/Liberal/Leftist/Salafist) and hold our elected leaders accountable for what they do when we elect them. It doesn’t matter if the president is Morsi/Baradei/Sisi or even Santa Clause. From 2011 forward any president that doesn’t do his job and respect the law will be overthrown and sent to prison.
          Egyptian, Muslim, Christian, Islamist, liberal and PROUD!!
          Be ashamed of yourself!

          • Sam Boulis

            I couldn’t agree more, you are a real patriot and I support your struggle for a democratic Egypt!

          • Hamid Siddiqui

            tamer, you are asking me to be ashamed,
            you are full of crap, without even knowing the meaning of democracy, you are
            burning Egypt and claiming that you are some crap combatant for democracy, what
            the hell is your norms for a democratic ruler of Egypt, he will carry an
            ALADIN’S lamp that Tamer will give him his wish list and he will fulfill in a
            flick second, do you have the slightest idea why the elected government are
            given 4 or 5 years tenure? And how many months Morsi had been on the chair? I
            think if Egypt wants to prosper, Egypt will have to put people like you in tether,
            unless you get real education of democracy, the first thing in democracy is
            respect, it seems you never been into any respectable place ever, second is
            education to understand the importance of democracy, and been able to enjoy
            democracy, you are showing null in that field as well, you do not have the
            least idea that what Egypt has loosed during your so called democratic protests
            , You are just happy that world media is picking fools like you making victory
            signs, , and on top of this Democracy should the national spirit , but in your
            case this doesn’t exist in your brain washed dictionary.

          • tamer

            Ok since you are so educated in democracy, please explain to me how Morsi’s constitutional declaration of Nov 22 2012 is democratic?
            To refresh your memory, he changed the active constitution giving himself ALL powers and all his decisions above the law. And there was no vote on it. He just did it. And his supporters surrounded the Supreme Court to make sure the judges don’t rule against it.
            Where is the democracy there? Where is the legal there?
            If you can convince me that that is NOT a crime then I will admit that he should return as president .

          • Hamid Siddiqui

            I am not educated in democracy, but I comprehend democracy, and I know that democracy is something that can only work if the mainstream of a country knows what it is, and how to benefit from it. You cannot dictate your terms to bring democracy; one should not destroy the infrastructure, kill people,support the use of power/ weapons and call himself a democratic fighter
            And Morsi’s new constitution of 22NOV, with seven-articles declaration was not a crime, it was a mistake, crimes is something people try
            to hide from public, but he announced it, people rejected it and he took it back in DEC. Is this not a democratic move? Then who paid you to build this wall of hatred in a beautiful country like Egypt? Divide the people of Egypt in the name of religion? The people who lived centuries tolerating each other’s religion, definitely they must be having petty differences always but hey had their internal ways as well to resolve their personal problems. How come suddenly the issues become so unbearable and now in EGYPT once known for
            knowledge have no one in the country to resolve their problems so they are asking USA and others for their involvement, don’t you feel there is a
            conspiracy against Egypt. And you are showing yourself as a person sold to that conniver?

        • Sam Boulis

          How much time is enough Hamid, he never even show any initiative to help any of the problems the nation is facing, his goal was establish an Islamist state. Morsi had no right to even run for any office, he was a prison escapee(felon), he broke out of prison with help from Hamas, your gibberish won’t make any difference. It is what it is!

          • Hamid Siddiqui

            You will see , what you call my gebberish , will make difference and the time is about to come when people like you will be placed on their deserving spots.

        • MS

          PEOPLE WITH UNDERSTANDING AND OPEN EYES, EARS AND HEART WILL UNDERTSAND THAT. ANOTHER SUCH COMMENT HERE

          http://sitelife.theglobeandmail.com/ver1.0/gocomm?ck=CommentKey%3a5f97e58f-cd81-4120-93c3-e58c6e558000

      • Sam Boulis

        Tamer, you hit the nail on the head, this woman is either ignorant or MB sympathizer!

    • Sam Boulis

      Folina Rai, take your head out of your butt(pardon me for using such harsh term), are you in good faith implying that Morsi and Islamist government good and kind bunch?, here where you are wrong: Morsi allowed his MB thugs to kill Christians and burn their churches and even their homes. What did Morsi do for Egypt and its people? the answer is chaos, inflation, fuel shortage and the list goes on. His only achievement was trying to establish an Islamist state with Sharia law.
      The army should exercise their power to combat violence, Morsi is a prison escapee and should never return to office, he and his MOB should be tried for inciting violence.

      • arifi1

        Seeing your name, you can’t be honest and impartial. You’re one of the many ones who are being brainwashed by your zionist media in the west. We know what people like you are going to say without opening your mouth yet. Our Creator of the heavens and the earth told us in the final testament, the noble Quran, to verify news first before you pass it through. People like you are doing the contrary without even verifying the news. You tell lies only to upset people and to create chaos.
        Stop lying and get the news from the source. Don’t count on the BBC, CNN, FOX, REUTERS to bring you neutral news when it comes to Muslims.

    • Ahmed Bata

      Many journalists and media personalities were facing lawsuits because they were critical of Morsi. Some served jail time as well.

    • Hamid Siddiqui

      Morsi did nothing to deserve what he is going thru, these are traitors and bunch of paid intruders making chaos in the name of democracy.

    • KZ

      Fuck off bitch, the MB deserve to die as they carry arms to all their protests.

  • Tut Ankh Amon

    He’s the new Muslim Brothers Himmler after the arrest of his Daddy who was assistant to the removed president.

    They are trying to protect the family fortune estimated at several Billions from extortion, illegal commission and money laundering

    • MS

      watch out when somebody spit in a SKY you what happens……..

  • Ahmed Bata

    It all boils down to the will of the Egyptian people. Morsi barely won a runoff election (51.4%) that was fraught with irregularities that made it difficult for those opposed to Morsi to cast their vote. Instead of uniting the people, Morsi deepened the divisions. Millions asked him to resign. He refused to even call for early elections. That is a treasonous response that risks civil war. He should have reaffirmed his mandate at the ballot box.

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  • Reda Sobky

    A Gobbelian character (as in Gobbles) in the making and budding right in front of our eyes.

  • arifi1

    Egypt and the world don’t need democracy. Democracy is something evil. The UN is an avil organisation who is ran by filthy zionist demons.

    Democracy litteraly means ”people’s law”. What we need to establish is God’s law. The law of Allah subhana wa ta’ala on earth.

    If we don’t do that or try everything to establish it, the muslims will stay in a mess. The Creator of the heavens and the earth will never change our situation if we don’t change ourselves. Islam ruled the world for centuries. The Muslims had the most knowledge and were the most prosperous people on the face of the earth. Why? Because they did not abandon Allah’s will.
    The only way we can return to that situation is when we go back to God’s will and establish it on earth.

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  • columbare1

    Some countries can only have relative peace when they are ruled by a dictator,general,king,mullah,sheik,warlord or some type of strong man who allows little to no dissent Egypt seems to be one of these.

  • KZ

    a traitor and i doubt he is Egyptian at all, let alone muslim

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