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IED found, deactivated in a bus in Heliopolis

The incident comes two days after the Nasr City explosion

Egyptian security officials inspect the wreckage of a bus that was damaged by an explosion on 26 December 2013 in Cairo.  (Photo by AFP)
Egyptian security officials inspect the wreckage of a bus that was damaged by an explosion on 26 December 2013 in Cairo.
(Photo by AFP)

An improvised explosive device (IED) was found and deactivated inside a bus in Al-Hegaz Square in Heliopolis on Saturday afternoon.

A detective officer on the scene told Daily News Egypt that a citizen found an IED on the bus and informed policemen, who came to the scene shortly after and deactivated the bomb. Policemen are currently interrogating eyewitnesses for more information.

The incident comes two days after a bomb exploded under a bus in Nasr City, causing five injuries, with another defused nearby, as claimed by the Ministry of Interior.

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  • Biff Jay

    Lol, incidents like these are so obviously government inside jobs. Even Al Qaeda wouldn’t target a civilian bus (unless they were Shias or something).

    Typical tactic to create fear and panic to support even harsher crackdown measures, which will likely just result in harsher responses by the people and Egypt will continue to blaze more. Real great plan!

    Coups don’t work.

    • Joe

      Biff Jay, do you have any sort of proof it was an inside job? The government has no need to stage things like this as the crackdown on the MB already has popular and legal support. On the other hand, the MB has every motivation to destabilize Egypt and her economy.

      • Biff Jay

        Of course not. Do you have any sort of proof that it wasn’t an inside job? I merely said it’s a possibility given Egypt’s long history of using these sorts of tactics and using agent provocateurs. The majority of Egyptians believed the 2011 bombing on the Alexandria church was an inside job too, and for the most part it’s pretty well accepted that it was. So why wouldn’t it happen again? I mean someone put an IED on a civilian bus the other day. It didn’t go off but it sure stirred up panic. Even Al Qaeda wouldn’t deploy that sort of tactic (last time I checked, there’s not a ton of Shias in Egypt, which is the only reason to blow up a public bus, and I can’t imagine any calculated position in which a bus would happen to be full of Christian minorities. If there was, the media certainly would have stated so. So who would plant an IEd on a bus? for what purpose? it makes no sense. There’s no logical strategy in that even for terrorists). Things like that just scream suspicion.

        The crackdown on the MB does not have popular support. Egypt is very finely divided now. Look at the latest approval rating surveys if you don’t believe me. In fact, the harder the military tries and more aggressive they get, the worse they look.

        MB will continue to peacefully protest. They are very sophisticated about strategy and direction. They would never be dumb enough to adopt violent tactics. They have constantly emphasized to their supporters and protest movements not to degrade to violence and that peaceful protesting is the solution. And of course it is. It is what works. Far more liberals in Egypt are turning against the Coup as well. Just follow the currents on newspapers such as Daily News Egypt and the April 6 movement.

        It’s the government that gains if violence and terrorism is used against the state. Many people, including myself, pointed out in early July that the military would provoke the resistors into using violent tactics and provoking terror attacks so they could use it as a reason to ban the Brotherhood. Was it not a fairly obvious prediction or did we just get lucky and guess correctly? The Coup regime needs violence to legitimize their quelling of dissent. The masses will not adopt violence. The Brotherhood is too saavy to ever be fooled into adopting violent tactics. There’s 4 Rabaa booths at grocery stores in Toronto Canada now. The message is spreading. The Brotherhood have played their cards right and solidified their future survival and legitimacy to millions (perhaps not to you though).

        Labeling the Brotherhood as a terror organization is a good way of starting a civil war, if that’s what the military wants. They are not giving large demographics of Egypt the political space to play in politics. That is a formula for disaster. People will turn to violence, but it won’t be the Brotherhood.

        As I said, Egypt is very divided now. You can continue to believe the Brotherhood and anti-Coup elements are some unpopular fringe group, but the popular currents and statistical approval surveys of Morsi and Sisi say otherwise. They can’t even control the dissent on college campuses anymore.

        • Joe

          I don’t have proof, but as you’re the one stating it’s a conspiracy, the burden of proof is with you. Your assertion that the MB is peacefully protesting is flat out incorrect. Shortly after the ‘coup’ the MB leaders accused the Copts of conspiring with the military to overthrow the regime and the next day ~40 churches were torched and countless killed. There are also other videos showing the so-called peaceful protesters firing and police and of course lets not forget the countless police killed.

          Sure, the military is not a completely honest broker, but they are definitely the lesser of two evils in this situation.

          Labeling the brotherhood a terrorist organization is necessary. Sympathizing with their ‘struggle’ is like sympathizing with the KKK’s struggle to purify America of black’s or the Nazi parties struggle to purge Jews off the face of the earth. Don’t take my word for it, just read Milestones from Sayyid Qutb. It’s like the MB’s version of Mein Kampf. All the popular support in the world still wouldn’t make the Muslim brotherhood’s rule legitimate. That is where the term ‘tyranny of the majority’ comes from.

          I’d like to see these surveys you talk about. As you are probably aware of, they can be highly skewed, so I don’t take them too seriously (garbage in, garbage out). What is pretty indisputable, is the vast majority of Egyptians wanted Morsi out of Government as of a few months ago.

          • Biff Jay

            if if was a country like America, sure I would be more inclined to see it as a conspiracy theory. In Egypt, with its well documented and standard deployment of tactics using agent provocateurs, it’s just another normal possibility. Nearly all Egyptians were sure the Ministry of Interior was behind the Church bombing in 2011 in Alexandria for instance.

            In corrupt countries, this style of tactics is normal. Russia also blew up its own apartment buildings to blame on Chechens (if you don’t believe me, just Wikipedia the Ryazan incident).

            The whole point of using agent provocateurs is that you can’t prove who they are, and you are supposed to blame a designated entity. Of course you are not supposed to believe such a narrative. That’s the whole point. Read any book on Egyptian politics and they talk about these tactics in a way that is normal. It’s not considered conspiracy theory in a place like Egypt. The anti-Brotherhood Egyptians are the ones who come up with ridiculous conspiracy theories. If presented with a video of security forces shooting a journalist or unnamed protesters, they will say it’s a Brotherhood agent provocateur dressed up as a Policeman shooting their own people to gain sympathy. I think that’s a lot more ridiculous, especially considering the sophistication that goes into these sort of tactics and the little influence Brotherhood had in the Ministry of Interior (who are experts at these sorts of tactics, have the capability to deploy them, and if caught they would never be held accountable. The MOI can use agent provocateurs without risk. The same can not be said for a grassroots movement.)

            I think the real simple question to ask is: who gains from violence and claims of violence? The obvious answer is the military and the regime. Protecting the country from terrorism gives them legitimacy and buys legitimacy. Lets assume the Brotherhood were the most evil group in the world. Strategically speaking, there still wouldn’t be a good reason for them to deploy a strategy of violence.

            The Brotherhood are far too sophisticated and have too much to lose by using violence. It would not benefit them. So when the Brotherhood continually condemn violent acts and continually tell their supporters to protest peacefully, it is obvious why.

            When the Ministry of Interior blew up the Church in Alexandria at the height of the 2011 Revolution, it served no purpose other than to instill fear in the population that the revolution was illegitimate. Now the regime and military need to buy the legitimacy that they need to protect the country from terrorism, and they are the only ones capable of running the country. The Brotherhood is not dumb enough to fall for this. The Brotherhood can not benefit in any shape, way or form from violence. They can only lose from using violence.

            Violence is not a hallmark of the Brotherhood organization, whether you agree with their views or not. It never will be because it will never serve their goals and interests. So if you don’t believe it to be so from a moral standpoint, at least recognize it as so from a strategic standpoint.

            Also, it is not apparently obvious the majority of Egyptians wanted Morsi out of government a few months ago. Again, follow the approval ratings. Even Pew research showed Morsi with a 53% approval rating in May. As of a few weeks ago he still holds a 43%. And even if the majority wanted him out, does that really mean anything? In most democratic societies, it is most common and normal for leaders approval rating to fluctuate between 40-60%. Right now, I believe Obama has a 49% approval rating. Should he be toppled because 51% don’t like him running the country? Is it really worth it to compromise the Democratic framework which keeps our country stable, just to get rid of him? Civilized societies wait and vote the people out next time, and respect the results. It is most beneficial for the country and everyone. I think it’s fairly obvious where Egypt is heading, and I think it’s a pretty obvious reminder that an underperforming civilian government that’s still maintained within a Democratic framework is still better than a Coup with a civilian facade and an exclusive “Democracy.”

            Inclusive Democracy is the only way Egypt will be stable. Even the secular liberal April 6 revolutionary movement has stated the terrorist designation of the Brotherhood to be politically motivated and wrong. And these guys were against the Brotherhood too.

            These sort of narratives in which the MB are the boogeyman were not taken seriously under the Mubarak regime, and they certainly hold no legitimacy now.

            Military is not the lesser of two evils. Morsi didn’t issue one single Islamic legislation during his time in office. He was actually doing a lot to try and please his opponents and many Islamists were made at him because they felt he was trying to do too much for people who will hate him anyway. And they were partly correct. I think it was the same problem Obama ran into: he was trying to please his opponents too much, but they were going to hate him anyway and the lies would be endless.

            Sympathizing with the Brotherhood struggle is not equivelent to KKK. I know plenty of intellectuals, academics, professors and so forth who sympathize with them. These are not hateful or close minded people. I’ve taken Graduate level college courses on contemporary political Islam and modern Muslim movements and studied in Cairo’s universities for a year. I hate to bring my “credentials” into the picture, but I can say there’s an obvious misunderstanding of the group and decades of propaganda against them generated by dictatorship regimes. The Brotherhood were doomed to be hated no matter what. These accusations about the Brotherhood being fascist or terrorist are ridiculous. They are narratives used to prey on the majority of people who are oblivious.

            The Nazi-like fervor and fascism in Egypt that is spreading like wildfire is among so-called liberals calling for genocide against MB. I think Egypt is the only country in the world where musical pop stars call on their fans to support mass killings.

            Egypt is divided and you are clearly wrong if you think we are talking about some fringe group. Just go on Facebook and see how many people have the Rabaa symbol on their profile, or how divided the Facebook pages are in the comments section. It is obvious there is a huge division. Even in USA there are tons of Egyptian-Americans protesting in solidarity with Rabaa. This is bigger than a fringe group.

          • Joe

            Bill Jay, As soon as the brotherhood took over the persecution of Christians increased. Although things were bad for Christians were bad under Mubarak they were much worse under Morsi. I do have family living there and I can attest to that.

            “Inclusive Democracy is the only way Egypt will be stable”

            I agree, and that is why I’m baffled at how you can support their ideology. Just look at the constitution they passed and tell me how you can claim it’s “inclusive”.

            “Morsi didn’t issue one single Islamic legislation during his time in office”

            Again, look to the constitution they passed.

            I guess we just disagree on the fundamentals. I for one, see Political Islam as inherently immoral and an illegitimate.

            Also, I would of probably been better off leaving my opinion about public sentiment out of the discussion, as frankly, it’s irrelevant. If you could have polled people in the 18th century America if they thought slavery should be illegal they would have overwhelmingly said no. Just because something is popular doesn’t make it right.

            My argument for the most part, is look at the Muslim Brotherhoods ideological goals and any sane, rational person can come to the conclusion that it can not co-exist within a free society. That sames goes with Political Islam.

    • wepump

      Biff Jay a good cover name for an ikhwan Now why would Shias be involved 90 % of all terror is Sunni work in world a lot of Shias here in Egypt ? Osama Bin Laden and his whole group and the doctor running it now is from Maadi are all Shias ? EDA

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